Ce me spomin ne vara, je nekje na tem forumu bil prilepljen link do enga seznama antioksidantov, al celo kr napisan seznam, pa ga js nikakor ne najdem. Ce se kera spomni bi bla hvalezna za pomoc.
Alpa ce kera ve za kako stran, kjer bi bli napisani aok, pa prilepi link sem? Potem se zaradi mene lahko tema zaklene.
Aja, pa se seznam komedogenih sestavin bi bil dobrodosel. In ja, tut ta je ze bil nekje objavljen, pa spet ne najdem.
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 10:54 PM
Snovi, ki so komedogene:
acetylated lanolin (alcohol)
(poly)glyceryl-3-diisostearate
caprylic/capric trigliceride
cetearyl alcohol+ceteareth20
cocoa butter
coconut butter
coconut oil
ethylhexyl palmitate
hexadecyl alcohol
isocetyl stearate
isodecyl oleate
isononyl isononanoate
isopropyl isostearate
isopropyl myristate
isopropyl palmitate
isostearyl isostearate
laureth-4
lauric acid
myristyl lactate
myristyl myristate
octyl palmitate
octyl stearate
oleth-3
oleyl alcohol
steareth 10
stearyl heptanoate
Za AOK pa žal nimam podatkov.
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acetylated lanolin (alcohol)
(poly)glyceryl-3-diisostearate
caprylic/capric trigliceride
cetearyl alcohol+ceteareth20
cocoa butter
coconut butter
coconut oil
ethylhexyl palmitate
hexadecyl alcohol
isocetyl stearate
isodecyl oleate
isononyl isononanoate
isopropyl isostearate
isopropyl myristate
isopropyl palmitate
isostearyl isostearate
laureth-4
lauric acid
myristyl lactate
myristyl myristate
octyl palmitate
octyl stearate
oleth-3
oleyl alcohol
steareth 10
stearyl heptanoate
Za AOK pa žal nimam podatkov.
8)
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 05:22 AM
To je pa samo maščoba - hranilna sestavina.
Z ljubeznijo je kakor s pečenko: čim starejši so zobje, tem mlajša mora biti jagnjetina.
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 05:48 PM
a je olivno olje K?
Lazje je verjeti lazi, ki si jo slisal stokrat, kot pa resnici, ki je nisi se nikoli
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:34 PM
men se zdi da ne. A ni blo enkrat govora da shea butter ne pase najbolj na kozo na obrazu, razen najbolj suho?
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:48 PM
QUOTE(*pikica*)
a je olivno olje K?
Seveda je.
Karitejevo maslo paše res na zelo suho kožo. Sicer pa ni škodljivo.
Z ljubeznijo je kakor s pečenko: čim starejši so zobje, tem mlajša mora biti jagnjetina.
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:48 PM
fak prou vedla sm 
Lazje je verjeti lazi, ki si jo slisal stokrat, kot pa resnici, ki je nisi se nikoli
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:55 PM
olivno olje je komedogeno al kaj? Ce je blo pa recimo tole (pa tut veliko podobnih krem) ocenjeno kot nekomedogeno..
Aqua, Pyrus Cydonia, Aloe Barbadensis, Ascorbic Acid, Citric Acid, Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Limonene, Parfum.
To je ta krema od kutine. Al je to ze tk pozno da nima vec vpliva? Vedno sm mislila da je olvno olje ful dobro za kozo
Aqua, Pyrus Cydonia, Aloe Barbadensis, Ascorbic Acid, Citric Acid, Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Limonene, Parfum.
To je ta krema od kutine. Al je to ze tk pozno da nima vec vpliva? Vedno sm mislila da je olvno olje ful dobro za kozo
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:58 PM
Mislim, da je Sonchika na hitr prebrala in je misla, da pikica sprašuje, če je olivno olje antioksidant in je odgovorila, da je ... js sm tud najprej narobe prebrala.
Olivno olje je mastno kot vsako olje, valjda ... ni pa komedogeno.
Olivno olje je mastno kot vsako olje, valjda ... ni pa komedogeno.
Ljubezen ni odraz enega samega dogodka, enega samega pogleda ali dotika. Ljubezen se v človeka prikrade počasi in potiho ... in potem se enkrat enostavno zaveš, da imaš nekoga neskončno rad. Zaradi množice vseh njegovih dejanj, pogledov, besed, dotikov, čutenj ... ki ga delajo takšnega, kot je. Mogoče se tega zaveš medtem, ko misliš nanj in ga neskončno pogrešaš, ali pa ko ga pogledaš v oči in v njih najdeš vse, kar obožuješ.
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:04 PM
:hello1:
Lazje je verjeti lazi, ki si jo slisal stokrat, kot pa resnici, ki je nisi se nikoli
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:10 PM
Bi se lahko zraven te teme dal klicaj in bi se preimenovala v "uporabni podatki" alpa kaj podobnega in bi v njej meli nastete recimo antioksidante in komedogene sestavine, ki so ze tu, pol se pa lahko dodaja, recimo: sestavine, ki delujejo proti celulitu, proti gubam, za bolj napeto kozo, iritanti, strupene oziroma nevarne itd itd..
Blo bi namrec fajn, ce bi se clovek s casom naucil vsaj osnove, da bi lahko v trgovini sam ocenil kremo, preden jo kupi. Js neki sestavin zdaj ze poznam, samo sem zadnjic kupila baleino kremo, ki se mi je zdela glede antioksidantov super, sem pa kiksnila pri komedogenosti.. Dala sm jo pa seveda ocenit ko je bla ze kupljena in kaj naj pol..nazaj je glih ne morm nest ze odprte
Blo bi namrec fajn, ce bi se clovek s casom naucil vsaj osnove, da bi lahko v trgovini sam ocenil kremo, preden jo kupi. Js neki sestavin zdaj ze poznam, samo sem zadnjic kupila baleino kremo, ki se mi je zdela glede antioksidantov super, sem pa kiksnila pri komedogenosti.. Dala sm jo pa seveda ocenit ko je bla ze kupljena in kaj naj pol..nazaj je glih ne morm nest ze odprte
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:13 PM
QUOTE(izabela)
Bi se lahko zraven te teme dal klicaj in bi se preimenovala v \"uporabni podatki\" alpa kaj podobnega in bi v njej meli nastete recimo antioksidante in komedogene sestavine, ki so ze tu, pol se pa lahko dodaja, recimo: sestavine, ki delujejo proti celulitu, proti gubam, za bolj napeto kozo, iritanti, strupene oziroma nevarne itd itd..
Blo bi namrec fajn, ce bi se clovek s casom naucil vsaj osnove, da bi lahko v trgovini sam ocenil kremo, preden jo kupi.
Blo bi namrec fajn, ce bi se clovek s casom naucil vsaj osnove, da bi lahko v trgovini sam ocenil kremo, preden jo kupi.
Ta bi bla FUL pametna in dobrodošla. Pač da se še same mal izobrazimo
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:51 PM
vitamin A
vitamin B6
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black elderberry
black raspberry
blackberry
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boysenberry
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burdock root
caffeic acid
calendula extract
carnosic acid
carnosine
carob fruit extract
carrot extract
chamomile
chicory extract
cocoa extract
coffea arabica extract
curcumin
dogwood
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elderberry
ergothioneine
ethyl vanillin
fenugreek
flax seed oil
ganoderma lucidum extract
gaultheria shallon
geranium extract
grapefruit oil
hibiscus flower extract
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indian gooseberry
isoflavone
kojic dipalmitate
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phytic acid
phytoalexins
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pullulan
pycnogenol
rapeseed oil
red clover
red raspberry extract
rose hip oil
rutin
safflower oil
blue elderberry
sanguisorba officinalis
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scullcap extract
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silk proteine
soy extract
soya sterol
spinach extract
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tannic acid
TBHQ
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thiotaurine
ulva lactuca extract
vanilla planifolia fruit extract
wormword
yeast
yerba mate extract
vitamin B6
vitamin E
vitamin C
vitamin P
aminokisline
encimi
koencimi
beta karoten
selenium
zinc
vitis vinifera extract
camelia sinesis
camelia oleifera
kinetin
glutathione
methylsufonylsulfate
ginkgo biloba
olea europea
walnut extract
hamamelis virginiana
alfa alfa extracta
ndrographolide
anise
artichoke extract
azulene
bay leaf oil
beta carotene
lycopene
lutein
beta-glucan
bilberry extract
betula alba
black elderberry
black raspberry
blackberry
bladderwrack extract
boysenberry
brazil nut extract
burdock root
caffeic acid
calendula extract
carnosic acid
carnosine
carob fruit extract
carrot extract
chamomile
chicory extract
cocoa extract
coffea arabica extract
curcumin
dogwood
echium lycopsis oil
elderberry
ergothioneine
ethyl vanillin
fenugreek
flax seed oil
ganoderma lucidum extract
gaultheria shallon
geranium extract
grapefruit oil
hibiscus flower extract
hops extract
indian gooseberry
isoflavone
kojic dipalmitate
kudzu root
linden extract
linoleic acid
loquat extract
lotus seed extract
upinus albus extract
magnifera indica root
mannan
mannitol
marionberry
milk vetch root
natto gum
oryzanol
palm oil
pansy extract
parsley extract
phytic acid
phytoalexins
phytol
pine cone extract
plum extract
polianthes tuberosa extract
polygonum cuspidatum root extract
pomegranate extract
poria cocos extract
primula veris extract
prolamine extract
prune seed extract
pullulan
pycnogenol
rapeseed oil
red clover
red raspberry extract
rose hip oil
rutin
safflower oil
blue elderberry
sanguisorba officinalis
saponin
scullcap extract
sechium edule extract
self-heal
silk proteine
soy extract
soya sterol
spinach extract
squalene
tannic acid
TBHQ
terminalia catappa
thiazolidine carboxylate
thiotaurine
ulva lactuca extract
vanilla planifolia fruit extract
wormword
yeast
yerba mate extract
Ljubezen ni odraz enega samega dogodka, enega samega pogleda ali dotika. Ljubezen se v človeka prikrade počasi in potiho ... in potem se enkrat enostavno zaveš, da imaš nekoga neskončno rad. Zaradi množice vseh njegovih dejanj, pogledov, besed, dotikov, čutenj ... ki ga delajo takšnega, kot je. Mogoče se tega zaveš medtem, ko misliš nanj in ga neskončno pogrešaš, ali pa ko ga pogledaš v oči in v njih najdeš vse, kar obožuješ.
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Hvala! 
Najbrz jih je se vec, ne? Prakticno skor vsaka naravna stvar..aloe barbadensis recimo? Na primeru zgornje kremice sm z rdece oznacila kar js mislim da so aok. Je to prav?
Najbrz jih je se vec, ne? Prakticno skor vsaka naravna stvar..aloe barbadensis recimo? Na primeru zgornje kremice sm z rdece oznacila kar js mislim da so aok. Je to prav?
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:59 PM
Ja, tale seznamčič se dolgo skupi daje, ker je nekak po delčkih raztresen po netu in ga je treba skup nekak dobit. Verjetno je še kje kak AOK, ki ga tle ni.
Ljubezen ni odraz enega samega dogodka, enega samega pogleda ali dotika. Ljubezen se v človeka prikrade počasi in potiho ... in potem se enkrat enostavno zaveš, da imaš nekoga neskončno rad. Zaradi množice vseh njegovih dejanj, pogledov, besed, dotikov, čutenj ... ki ga delajo takšnega, kot je. Mogoče se tega zaveš medtem, ko misliš nanj in ga neskončno pogrešaš, ali pa ko ga pogledaš v oči in v njih najdeš vse, kar obožuješ.
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 09:52 AM
Spet malo v razmislek (stvari nikoli ne smemo jemati za samoumevne in brez premisleka, vedno je treba več vidikov preučit)
Clinical trials of antioxidant supplements
Although some levels of antioxidant vitamins and minerals in the diet are required for good health, there is considerable doubt as to whether antioxidant supplementation is beneficial, and if so, which and what amount of antioxidant(s) are optimal.
One study of lung cancer patients found that those given beta-carotene supplements had worse prognoses. Two 1994 studies found an increased rate of lung cancer in smokers supplementing with beta carotene. This is believed to be due to antioxidant interference with the body's normal use of localised free radicals e.g. nitric oxide for cell signalling. Due to the complex nature of the interactions of antioxidants with the body, it is difficult to interpret the results of many experiments. In vitro testing (outside the body) has shown many natural antioxidants, in specific concentration, can halt the growth of or even kill cancerous cells.
In the early 1990s, it was hypothesized that oxidation of LDL cholesterol contributes to heart disease, and several observational studies found that people taking Vitamin E supplements had a lower risk of developing heart disease.[21]. Taken together, this led researchers to conduct at least seven large clinical trials testing the effects of antioxidant supplement with Vitamin E, in doses ranging from 50 to 600 mg per day. However, none of these trials found a statistically significant effect of Vitamin E on overall number of deaths or on deaths due to heart disease.[22]
While several trials have investigated supplements with high doses of antioxidants, the "Supplementation en Vitamines et Mineraux Antioxydants" (SU.VI.MAX) study tested the effect of supplementation with doses comparable to those in a healthy diet.[23] Over 12,500 French men and women took either low-dose antioxidants (120 mg of ascorbic acid, 30 mg of vitamin E, 6 mg of beta carotene, 100 μg of selenium, and 20 mg of zinc) or placebo pills for an average of 7.5 years. The investigators found there was no statistically significant effect of the antioxidants on overall survival, cancer, or heart disease. However, a subgroup analysis showed a 31% reduction in the risk of cancer in men, but not women. The authors interpreted these results as suggesting that "an adequate and well-balanced supplementation of antioxidant nutrients, at doses that might be reached with a healthy diet that includes a high consumption of fruits and vegetables, had protective effects against cancer in men."
En članek je bil tudi v Delu ali Mladini se mi zdi o antioksidantih pa se ne spomnim kje. Damn
Clinical trials of antioxidant supplements
Although some levels of antioxidant vitamins and minerals in the diet are required for good health, there is considerable doubt as to whether antioxidant supplementation is beneficial, and if so, which and what amount of antioxidant(s) are optimal.
One study of lung cancer patients found that those given beta-carotene supplements had worse prognoses. Two 1994 studies found an increased rate of lung cancer in smokers supplementing with beta carotene. This is believed to be due to antioxidant interference with the body's normal use of localised free radicals e.g. nitric oxide for cell signalling. Due to the complex nature of the interactions of antioxidants with the body, it is difficult to interpret the results of many experiments. In vitro testing (outside the body) has shown many natural antioxidants, in specific concentration, can halt the growth of or even kill cancerous cells.
In the early 1990s, it was hypothesized that oxidation of LDL cholesterol contributes to heart disease, and several observational studies found that people taking Vitamin E supplements had a lower risk of developing heart disease.[21]. Taken together, this led researchers to conduct at least seven large clinical trials testing the effects of antioxidant supplement with Vitamin E, in doses ranging from 50 to 600 mg per day. However, none of these trials found a statistically significant effect of Vitamin E on overall number of deaths or on deaths due to heart disease.[22]
While several trials have investigated supplements with high doses of antioxidants, the "Supplementation en Vitamines et Mineraux Antioxydants" (SU.VI.MAX) study tested the effect of supplementation with doses comparable to those in a healthy diet.[23] Over 12,500 French men and women took either low-dose antioxidants (120 mg of ascorbic acid, 30 mg of vitamin E, 6 mg of beta carotene, 100 μg of selenium, and 20 mg of zinc) or placebo pills for an average of 7.5 years. The investigators found there was no statistically significant effect of the antioxidants on overall survival, cancer, or heart disease. However, a subgroup analysis showed a 31% reduction in the risk of cancer in men, but not women. The authors interpreted these results as suggesting that "an adequate and well-balanced supplementation of antioxidant nutrients, at doses that might be reached with a healthy diet that includes a high consumption of fruits and vegetables, had protective effects against cancer in men."
En članek je bil tudi v Delu ali Mladini se mi zdi o antioksidantih pa se ne spomnim kje. Damn
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Sam to se gre o oralnem jemanju antioksidantov, kot dodatkov. To so vecje kolicine kot tega kar je v kremah. Kar je v kremah v bistvu deluje samo na povrhnjico koze, oziroma naj bi, ceprav se mi zdi, da so danasnje tehnologije vedno bolj agresivne in posledicno mesajo skup tut stvari, ki ne vplivajo vec sam na povrhnjico in dejansko pridejo noter v celice in kri. Eni pravijo da bi mogle bit kreme take, da ti nebi blo kaj, ce bi jo pojedel To pomeni cimvec alpa samo naravne stvari noter; naravne snovi so pa v vecini primerov ze same po sebi antioksidanti. Kar kozi skor ziher ne skodi a ne?
Kar se tice pa jemanja teh dodatkov pa nimam pojma. Js sm proti temu.. se mi zdi, da jih clovk ne rabi, ce se uravnotezeno prehranjuje, pa konc koncev, takoj ko stvar ni vec v obliki sadja ali zelenjave je ze kemijsko obdelana/pridelana/spremenjena..
Se mi pa zdi, da nas zadnje case zmerom bolj bombardirajo s t in ono raziskavo, kaj je zdravo, kaj je ful nezdravo in pol cez dve leti se to obrne in je zdravo tist kar naj bi blo prej strupeno in grozno tisto, kar se je prej smatralo za najboljse. Pac odvisno kdo naroci raziskavo; ljudje smo pa vedno bolj odvisni od upostevanja teh stvari.
To pomeni cimvec alpa samo naravne stvari noter; naravne snovi so pa v vecini primerov ze same po sebi antioksidanti. Kar kozi skor ziher ne skodi a ne?
Kar se tice pa jemanja teh dodatkov pa nimam pojma. Js sm proti temu.. se mi zdi, da jih clovk ne rabi, ce se uravnotezeno prehranjuje, pa konc koncev, takoj ko stvar ni vec v obliki sadja ali zelenjave je ze kemijsko obdelana/pridelana/spremenjena..
Se mi pa zdi, da nas zadnje case zmerom bolj bombardirajo s t in ono raziskavo, kaj je zdravo, kaj je ful nezdravo in pol cez dve leti se to obrne in je zdravo tist kar naj bi blo prej strupeno in grozno tisto, kar se je prej smatralo za najboljse. Pac odvisno kdo naroci raziskavo; ljudje smo pa vedno bolj odvisni od upostevanja teh stvari.
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 12:39 PM
Joj sokec, ti si tok poučen.
Ljubezen ni odraz enega samega dogodka, enega samega pogleda ali dotika. Ljubezen se v človeka prikrade počasi in potiho ... in potem se enkrat enostavno zaveš, da imaš nekoga neskončno rad. Zaradi množice vseh njegovih dejanj, pogledov, besed, dotikov, čutenj ... ki ga delajo takšnega, kot je. Mogoče se tega zaveš medtem, ko misliš nanj in ga neskončno pogrešaš, ali pa ko ga pogledaš v oči in v njih najdeš vse, kar obožuješ.
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 03:17 PM
Anede.
Sej ima pa point. Kdo je pa rekel, da vsi ti AOK pomagajo? Bomo videli čez 50 let.
Sej ima pa point. Kdo je pa rekel, da vsi ti AOK pomagajo? Bomo videli čez 50 let.
Z ljubeznijo je kakor s pečenko: čim starejši so zobje, tem mlajša mora biti jagnjetina.
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